Using writing, and meditation, and ice cream, and reading, and dreams,

and a whole lot of other tools to rediscover who I am,

after six years living with a man with OCPD.



What is OCPD?

OCPD is short for Obsessive Compulsive Personality Disorder.  Despite the similarity in names, this is totally different from OCD, Obsessive Compulsive Disorder  (although there can be co-morbidity, that is, one person can have symptoms of more than one mental illness.)

It's known by other names as well:  Anankastic Personality Disorder, Perfectionist Personality Disorder, "being anal-retentive," or Control Freak.  Control is basically the name of the game; because OCPD'rs are anxious (make that, terrified) inside, they seek to control themselves and their environments, to the extent of being thrown into a tizzy if something unexpected occurs - even a good something.

For now, here's your Cliff Notes version.

People who are OCPD may be inwardly-directed: super self-critical, procrastinators, can't make decisions because they are afraid of making a wrong one, or outwardly directed: super-critical of others, seemingly very angry, obsessed with making others follow their Rules to ensure that disaster is averted.  Or have some characteristics of both.

Some people who have OCPD have eating disorders, or try to control the eating of their loved ones.  Some people who have OCPD hoard (though not every person with OCPD hoards, and not every person who hoards has OCPD.)

People with PD's (Personality Disorders) in general have black-or-white thinking, and are usually convinced (and convincing) that they are Right and everyone else is Wrong, about anything and everything.  Over a period of time, we who love them can come to doubt our own world viewpoint, even our own sanity.

Most people who love someone with OCPD (myself included) have not had our amateur diagnosis confirmed.  Our loved one almost always refuses to go into counseling or for diagnosis, because there's absolutely nothing wrong with him/her!  If there's a problem in the relationship, it is all our fault!  It is also, sadly, not unusual for a person who is diagnosed with OCPD to completely deny the diagnosis later on.  So, if you believe or suspect your loved one has OCPD, don't think you can just tell him/her and you'll have this great Light Bulb Moment where they'll "get it" and you can go forward from there.  Often, telling them just makes it worse.

This blog, is not meant to bash those with OCPD.  People who are horrible to deal with when their minds are stuck in "OCPD-ville mode" are often lovely, kind, thoughtful, generous and wonderful people when lucid.  That's why we stay in the relationships, or find them so difficult to leave, or commit to working with our partners who are working on their own issues.

What we find, however, is whether we stay or go, we still have to sort out our own sh-t.  We've formed our own unhealthy, co-dependent behaviors over time, often pre-dating our relationship with an OCPD partner.  In order to become emotionally healthy ourselves, we need to recognize our strengths and weaknesses, our unhealthy patterns in dealing with others, and change them.  We cannot change others, we can only change ourselves.  That's what this blog is about.


Personality Disorder: Obsessive-Compulsive Personality Disorder


Disclaimer: This blog is about my personal journey, and sharing the things I have learned along the way that have been helpful to me. No advice or information presented here is intended to substitute for professional advice or consultation. Seeing a professional counselor, preferring one specializing in personality disorders, is recommended. Even if the Perfectionist Personality refuses to participate (because, after all, there's nothing wrong with him/her!), those who live with such a person can find tremendous relief and clarity from individual counseling.

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Maxine Aux-Arc · 677 weeks ago

Oh. My. God. It's been years since I've gone near the DSM because I felt it pathologized (yep, made up a word :-) individuality. And besides, I knew OCD ran through my family like a river, and I've already conquered the PD and agoraphobia that grew out of mine. But this description explain so much that's been troubling me, and so much that I see brewing in my daughter. I'm unofficially in the A To Z Challenge, just to try blogging, and I'm so glad I did. Without taking that challenge, I wouldn't have found this. And this is critical information. Thank you for the post and your honesty.

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1 reply · active 677 weeks ago
I dated a guy who is ocpd n gets obsessed with the people around. After being casul friends. About 5 years, we started dating n everything went perfct. We met each othrs families n relatives n planned to get married. But suddenly he said he didn't know if he loved me...he was obsessed.. And can't marry me... He feels he is still attracted towards me but that's physical attraction not emotional. How to know that he loves me or not. Been through n goin through real tough time. Plz help..
1 reply · active 631 weeks ago
I live with a very difficult roommate who fits OCPD to a T. I only lived here for a couple of weeks before I realized something was 'off'. At first, I thought there might be something wrong with me, and that I just needed to 'follow the rules' better. As the weeks and months went on, it got worse. I started to wonder if he just had it in for me for some reason, and that if I were extra nice and accommodating then he would back off. But it got worse. I started to get dealt a lot of verbal and emotional abuse, and anytime I confronted him on it (softly, of course) he would blow up at me. He started talking about me to our other roommate, his friends and are mutual colleagues (we go to the same grad school)...blaming me for why things were so difficult at home. After 8 months, I've decided that I've had enough. I've been in therapy and have realized that the problem is with him, not me. So I'm going to move out in 2 weeks. The sad part is, I truly don't think he realizes how destructive his behavior is. He actually thinks he's 'right' and everyone else is 'wrong'. Excuse my language, but what a fucking bastard!!!
1 reply · active 358 weeks ago
I think my husband has OCPD.
He has ridiculous rules which make no sense, and he gets very angry if they are deviated from. He is CONVINCED that we would all be happier if only the house were constantly immaculate. He is a perfectionist in everything he does, nothing I do is ever good enoug. When I do something, he has to do do it again after because I couldn't possibly do it well enough! He is obsessed with what other people might think, and controlling about the impression I might give to others.
He wants us all to conform to his way and is still suprised all these years later that I am so difficlut and can't just do as I am told!
He is in a constant state of stress to the degree that we are all on edge trying to be good enough to keep him happy. He cannot see for a minute that it is HE who has a problem thou... the sad thing is, the more I read about OCPD, the more I am led to believe nothing will change, and he will always be this way :-(
1 reply · active 584 weeks ago
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Jennifer Milano · 610 weeks ago

I'm convinced that my boyfriend of two years has OCPD. He is very controlling. He tells me that I cannot travel out of town alone because he doesn't trust what may happen. He says that if I meet up with my girlfriends and we go to a bar that when I come home I won't have a boyfriend. He says the only reason girls go to bars is to get f#*cked. He has crazy irrational fears. He hoards money. He can be generous some of the time, but over all he is very selfish and self centered. He is overly concerned about his own life and doesn't consider mine or my feelings. He is not at all a gentleman, and he almost never makes me feel special. I know I need to leave him but I guess I'm still trying to make it work. I feel sorry for him. I know he's sick. He has never been married and never lived with anyone before. He says that all of his previous relationships ended because he was wronged. I am convinced that this is not entirely true. I think he scared them all away with his controlling nature. Of course, he doesn't admit to any wrong doing. Everything negative that happens (in his mind) is always everyone else's fault. It is exhausting being with him. I know I'll leave eventually, I'm just waiting for the right time. He doesn't like therapy because when we went, the therapist was pointing out what he needed to work on. He hated it and didn't want to take a honest look at himself and ended up just bad mouthing the therapist. His famous line is- I don't need to go to therapy, I already know right from wrong. Ugh! My daughter says- Mom, everything we do is "His way or the highway"... and she couldn't be more accurate. I'm beyond frustrated.
2 replies · active 509 weeks ago
I just hired someone who now I'm sure has OCPD. At first (and still) like that he is very focused on his work and when things are written down, he follows them to a "T".
It has been very frustrating also. For example, it's very hard to teach him because a lot of times he won't listen because he thinks he's right and will even get to the point of arguing with me. He has told me that he was fired from his last job . His employer was not following the rules set out and would make exceptions, so they did not see eye-to-eye and had a lot of conflict.
Anyways, I do have a question!
Are there any tips or advice on how I need to deal (or work) with him?
1 reply · active 358 weeks ago
Nice post and informative as well. Thanks for sharing this post and letting me to share over here. Thanks

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I dated a kind, generous, wonderful man who was so giving to everyone except his mother and me. With us, he was demanding, controlling, harsh and critical. I told him that I could not understand his impatience with the people that loved him the most but he didn't see anything that he did wrong. I loved him, still do, but my loving him was destroying me; my self confidence and esteem and any joy that I had had were constantly being diminished in this relationship and I couldn't stay.
1 reply · active 601 weeks ago
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tresdecopas · 599 weeks ago

I have ocd tendencies..but i had a told my therapist who i only went too 4 tike that i felt i wad controlling n tat i felt tart it was only my way n certain thngs tat felt i had to take charge bc my fam doesnt now English so i felt i could do tgngs Better like researching etc. So now i was researchng ocpd which i ddnt now muchabout but it says mostly tat people dont recoognize it as a problem ..i mean people who have it. Does this mean i dnt have it?.. Its jst tat if i now a health tip i thnk my fam shud kno as,well n i gt frustratd bc thy dnt listen n thn i make tgem feel so anxious n bad about themselves bc i impose it so much..thats jst one ex thou. the list goes on ..like if u feel tgey ddnt listen i repeat it althou they already have.
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Frustrated · 575 weeks ago

I am married to a successful professional woman who has classic OCPD. I'm aware that discussing OCPD directly with her would be counterproductive, and even talking about her behaviors is futile because it provokes an instant, intense defensive reaction involving attacks on me. Today we briefly raised the idea of couples thereapy. I'm aware of all the pitfalls of most therapeutic approaches for OCPD, but I've been trying to locate a good, effective couples therapist who is savvy about OCPD, and I've not been able to find any therapists that look liske good candidates. Do you have any clues about how to find such a therapist?.
1 reply · active 574 weeks ago
While I understand this is your personal experience, I can't help but notice how much you really don't know about OCPD and as some who has OCPD, I am very insulted. I know it is hard for others, believe me. I am forever in debt to the people who have been by my side. But I don't think you fully comprehend the disorder and what it feels like to suffer from it. Yes, we can get in a "tizzy" or stuck in "OCPD-ville" and I have no doubt what so ever that it is extremely hard for you or whoever else may be in that situation but you make it seem like they're just stuck there for a while and then come back. OCPD isn't like a panic attack, it stays with you and I don't know about others but for me it's like this ball and chain I constantly have as a reminder. Using names like anal-retentive and control freak are both insulting and incorrect. Just because people possess those qualities, doesn't mean they are OCPD. The way you explain it is sort of like when people say someone is bipolar because they've been moody lately which is, of course, wrong.

I fully understand your right to express your experiences but when you're trying to explain it to other people, I'd make sure I was well educated in the topic. I hope this doesn't come off rude and if it does I sincerely apologize.
1 reply · active 574 weeks ago
Tiff is very classic OCPD
Can an ocpd sufferer be cured if u show him unconditional love and guide him to a life of freedom ? I pretty sure my bf suffers from ocpd i think he knows and tries to be emotional , but i feel like he is struggling
1 reply · active 561 weeks ago
I found this blog because I'm convinced my good friend has OCPD. We have been distance friends for 25 years and recently rekindled a close bond we once had. When we dated years and years ago, I knew he was quirky, but he is also a brilliant man, so I chalked it all up to being a little eccentric Our lives moved separate ways, but we've always kept in touch over the years and even written some articles for work together, and it's been a very sweet and caring penpal like relationship. But now that we've been in close contact again, I suspected something more was "off" than just being quirky. I can now see that his "quirks" have been debilitating for him, and he does not think the problem is his. After visiting in person and spending time with him again, I see he has what I now know are all the hallmarks of OCPD. He's had two failed marriages and also has trouble with maintaining relationships with his 4 sons, two of whom barely will have contact with him. One is living far away so he can explain it that way, but the other is still a teenager and is still forced to spend weekend time when my friend. He's belligerent and either goes out with friends or hides in his room with his computer. At first I thought that he was a problem child and headed for big trouble based on my friend's descriptions, but after spending time with them, I see that he's just getting away from his father. It's very difficult to see and come to this realization. We now have gone back to a distant or maybe even a non-existent friendship because I saw an anger and control that I didn't like and I'm glad it was so evident right away before we became any closer. But I do feel bad for him, and his relationship not only with his children, but also with everyone around him. He has no close friends and has alienated pretty much everyone who has been around him, or worked with him. He also has had a difficult time financially because he has worked in universities where his projects have been dependent on grant funding. I now see that those places, while they have not fired him outright, have not continued his projects or support for the grant funding. It's very sad because he is a brilliant man, and now he's teaching school at a middle school to make ends meet, and he's miserable for it. He still continues with his studies and writing, but on his own with no collaboration or funding, so sparingly. It's sad and frustrating for me to see all this too, because he cannot see himself that his rigid inflexibility has been to his detriment. I can go on and on with details of so many things that are hallmark of the OCPD. I started to talk to him about these things before I knew anything about OCPD, and of course, this did not go over well at all, because everyone else is wrong, and he is right... about everything. Absolutely everything. And once I questioned some things, his anger turned toward me. It was so scary I left abruptly one day. I wondered even if he had a split personality because he would oscillate between "moods" and sometimes seems to even forget the nice, sweet or tender emotional things he's communicated to me. It's all my problem because I "misinterpreted" what he was saying, or I twisted and perverted the events, and he even accused me of fabricating some things, while I have actual written things from him that supports everything I'm saying or feeling. That's one benefit of having a distance between us... we have written a lot, so there is a very clear chain. I'm still upset enough about the whole thing to be thinking about it, even though I've walked away from it. There has been some limited communication and the door is still open to remain friends, but I wonder if it's wise at all. And finally, how do his children cope? I feel very bad for them, particularly the youngest since his mother is also not the most stable person. Ugh.... It's been an eye-opener for sure. I've been pouring over all the old communications and things that I've learned about him recently, and I'm sure he has OCPD. But at this stage in his life? I don't think anything will change for him anymore, and worse, I worry about him because he can be very dark and depressed at times. So what to do? Walk away, or keep trying to be a friend?
2 replies · active 533 weeks ago
My dad is severe OCPD. Since a child, I never felt like I could live up to his standards. He was always angry and would get upset if I would leave an empty water bottle on the counter. He never said he was proud of me or loved me. He was nicer to outsiders more so then my mom and I. He always feels he is doing everything and working hard and the rest of us are lazy. My mom and I call him "Eeyore" The glass is always half empty. He hoards money, clothes and shoes. Is a millionaire but lives as a popper. He will buy something but continue to use the old item til it breaks or tears apart. Everything has a place and has to be kept just so in the home to the point of excessiveness. Don't bother cleaning because he will just come behind you and "do it correctly" It's got to be exhausting for him and my mom and I have been over it for years. Its like living in hell on earth. We told him to seek treatment but there is nothing wrong with him!
1 reply · active 556 weeks ago
hello :(
very unhappy here. the worst part is that Mr ocpd has no understanding of my perspective at all. thinks that all would be fine, no argumemnts if i was frugal and did things his way. Tried to explain i would rather talk about my mums cancer biopsies and possible treatment but not interested, just wants to tell me how I should have saved money. is there any way to get out of this situation gracefully? feel like i cannot win- any explanation i give him is shot down in flames, im either lying or selfish :(
fd
2 replies · active 422 weeks ago
I am so happy to have found this blog, for some additional support. My BF of three years claearly has OCPD and readily admits to it. We both work in mental health and he can present as insightful ,but he clearly gets overwhelmed @ times and displaces onto me. He really is a sweet guy even when he is having a bad day. It's nice to be able to relate to others, love the "Crazy Rules" and will continue to look through the rest of the site.
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anneferris · 519 weeks ago

Too funny. Twenty-five years of struggling in a marriage, three marriage counselors, two counselors of my own (because I was the one with the problem...), endless books read about adult children of alcoholics, a sad divorce, and NOW I find out about OCPD?

Critical information for sure. I'll have to let my kids know about it - it will help them understand their father. Thank you.
1 reply · active 503 weeks ago
As someone diagnosed with OCPD, trying to find healthier and sustainable coping strategies, it was difficult but nice to read the perspective of a partner of someone with OCPD. At times I have viewed my perfectionist tendencies as a strength, I can get very good results. Recently I find these behavioural tendencies have increased strain on my relationships, romantic and otherwise. It seems as the stakes get higher so does the need to control. My concern is around having kids and starting a family. I would like to ask those who have lived through this, did getting married and having children increase the tendencies of your partner? I want to lead a normal life but it kills me to see how my behaviour affects the people in my life and I do not want to make things worse. What strategies have helped you and you loved one?
1 reply · active 503 weeks ago
Great post. It's very difficult to see and come to this realization. We now have gone back to a distant or maybe even a non-existent friendship because I saw an anger and control that I didn't like and I'm glad it was so evident right away before we became any closer. But I do feel bad for him, and his relationship not only with his children, but also with everyone around him. He has no close friends and has alienated pretty much everyone who has been around him, or worked with him. Thank you for the post and your post.
1 reply · active 503 weeks ago
Oh my goodness! I did not know how this disorder affects others. This guy that I recently met wanted to get to know me and invited me over to his house. Everything was showcase ready, it was spotless. He even dusted. At first I thought that he would make a great catch for someone. on my second visit, I noticed something wasn't right. all he talked about was cleaning and washing. The only thing he did for leisure time is look at movies on t.v. He did not like to leave home except to go outside and keep the yard as clean as the inside. He was proud on how clean he was. What really got me was how he could just snap me up so fast and go right back into the conversation. i guess what i really want to know is - does a person with ocpd have the ability to truly love me other than for physical attraction and sex?
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My adult daughter lives with us. Every day is a struggle. Her ocd/ocpd fear of germs, need to control our actions has become a drain not only on our relationships but our very lives.
She does not see herself in need of help.
Where can I turn for peace, understanding and ability to cope?
How can I help her without codependency?
Thank you ahead for any suggestions/advice anyone can give.
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